Re: A few issues...

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From: Oliver Hardt (hardt@u.arizona.edu)
Date: 11 Mar 01, 02:42 EST


From: Oliver Hardt <hardt@u.arizona.edu>
Subject: Re: A few issues...

there is nothing hard to grasp about it, John.  Usually you start 
selecting after you have navigated to a starting point.  that is, if 
you may think about it for a minute, someting different than having 
selected a huge amount of text and then going one character too far 
-- correcting this movement by going one step back causes the 
starting point to move and you can start again.
	No matter what kind of selection method one prefers, I do not 
think that  there is one that is better than the other in absolute 
terms.  There should simply be a possibilty to decide for yourself 
which method you'd like to use.
	And, yes, John, you concluded correclty, "alt" means 
"option".  Sorry if that confused you for a while -- the keyboard of 
my Mac here has two labels on this particular key.

	Olli.

At 10:27 AM -0500 on 3/10/01, you wrote on topic Re: A few issues...:
>At 8:12 AM -0700 3/10/01, Oliver Hardt wrote:
>>the biggest problem with this
>>behavior is, from my perspective, that you as a user are not allowed
>>to make an error when selecting text --
>
>Nor are you with the alternative. What is so hard to grasp about that?
>
>Alpha's way does not permit you contract your selection. Your way 
>does not permit you to expand the beginning of your selection. With 
>your model, if you misplace your anchor, you're screwed.
>
>Bare Bones' products are the only ones I know of that have a scheme 
>that lets you both expand and contract both ends of your selection. 
>The way they've done it is more than a little disconcerting at 
>first, but it's quite powerful.
>
>>Perhaps a selection
>>behavior could be implemented that is bound to a modifier key, so
>>that upon pressing "alt-shift"+arrowKey, the fixed selection point
>>behavior will govern text selection.
>
>"alt" would be what? <option>? That behavior is already defined by 
>the HIG; it changes the selection by a word. It's almost certainly 
>better to have a global preference to change the selection model.

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